Thursday, December 27, 2012

Daily Kos :How to ban guns...

*headdesk. okay...lets look at the monkeys laugh and wave as they fling shit at us from the other side of the glass....

"Furthermore, there seems to be no talk about high powered rifles. What gun nuts don't want you to know is many target and hunting rifles are chambered in the same round (.223/5.56mm) that Lanza's assault weapon was."
No shit? really? well golly gee beaver! I'm really glad you told me this...I didn't know...*snort of derision*  No really sporky? it's what the gun owners have been TELLING you for years. It's not like it's a big secret you idiot.

"Even more guns are chambered for more powerful rounds, like the .30-06 or (my personal "favorite") 7.62x54R. Even a .22, the smallest round manufactured on a large scale, can kill easily. In fact, some say the .22 kills more people than any other round out there."

You have a real talent for stating the blindingly obvious Sporky, none of this is news. OTOH the other thing that isn't news is that you don't listen...your kind never do.
30-06 good big game hunting round. .22. good for target practice and just all around plinking fun. 

"Again, I like that we're talking about assault weapons, machine guns, and high capacity clips. But it only takes one bullet out of one gun to kill a person. Remember the beltway sniper back in 2002? The one who killed a dozen odd people? Even though he used a bushmaster assault rifle, he only fired one round at a time before moving. He could have used literally any rifle sold in the US for his attacks."

And now boys and girls we're going to get to the heart of the matter...

"The only way we can truly be safe and prevent further gun violence is to ban civilian ownership of ALL guns. That means EVERYTHING. No pistols, no revolvers, no semiautomatic or automatic rifles. No bolt action. No breaking actions or falling blocks. Nothing. This is the only thing that we can possibly do to keep our children safe from both mass murder and common street violence."

The bolding emphasis and caps in that first two sentences are mine.  I did that because it's what I and others have been warning you about for YEARS! Decades even.  These people don't want "reasonable gun control", which is an oxy moron.  They want the complete elimination of the ownership of guns by civilians.  Which leaves the citizens completely defenseless, to criminals [remember when you need a cop right this second... they are only MINUTES away] and our own government.  These folks are under the delusion that taking guns out of the hands of citizens reduces crime. Newsflash...criminals don't obey the law. Yes criminals are sooo afraid of the law in Britain that  2 unarmed female officers were lured into an ambush in which they were shot and then finished with a GRENADE!

Yeah that gun control alleviating the violence problem really works...NOT.

"Unfortunately, right now we can't. The political will is there, but the institutions are not. Honestly, this is a good thing. If we passed a law tomorrow banning all firearms, we would have massive noncompliance. What we need to do is establish the regulatory and informational institutions first. This is how we do it:"

The political will is there?  *falls on the floor and rolls around giggling like a 3yr old being tickled...*
Ooops...sorry . That wasn't very dignified was it? Oh my god that was funny.   No you's NOT. Why? because even most democrats know it would be political SUICIDE. They know they could then kiss all those cushy bennies they've become completely overly accustomed to would dry up in a New York minute; not to mention their jobs and munificent, and wholly unearned salaries..

"The very first thing we need is national registry. We need to know where the guns are, and who has them. Canada has a national firearms registry. We need to copy their model. We need a law demanding all firearms be registered to a national database. We need to know who has them and where they are. We need to make this as easy as possible for gun owners. The federal government provides the money and technical expertise, and the State police carry it out. Like a funded mandate. Most firearms already have a serial number on them, so it would really be a matter of taking the information already on the ATF form 4473 and putting it in a national database. I think about 6 months should be enough time." olde national registry...what we who study history know to be the prelude to a grab of all guns...which of course is the course this mental midget is suggesting.

"Along with this, make private sales illegal. When a firearm is transferred, make it law that the registration must be updated. Again, make it super easy to do. Perhaps over, the internet. Dealers can log in by their FFLs and update the registration. Additionally, new guns are to be registered by the manufacturer. The object here is to create a clear paper trail from factory to distributor to dealer to owner. We want to encourage as much voluntary compliance as possible."

Sporky thinks compliance would be voluntary? Oh how naive. Among a VERY small portion maybe. By and large though most gun owners will probably tell you to go fuck yourself with a razor wire dildo.

"Now we get down to it. The registration period has passed. Now we have criminals without registered guns running around. Probably kooky types that "lost" them on a boat or something. So remember those ATF form 4473s? Those record every firearm sale, going back twenty years. And those have to be surrendered to the ATF on demand. So, we get those logbooks, and cross reference the names and addresses with the new national registry. Since most NRA types own two or (many) more guns, we can get an idea of who properly registered their guns and who didn't. For example, if we have a guy who purchased 6 guns over the course of 10 years, but only registered two of them, that raises a red flag."

Yes because anyone who wants to own more than one or two guns is a criminal and must be punished for doing absolutely nothing.

"Now, maybe he sold them or they got lost or something. But it gives us a good target for investigation. A nice visit by the ATF or state police to find out if he really does still have those guns would be certainly warranted. It's certainly not perfect. People may have gotten guns from parents or family, and not registered them. Perfect is the enemy of pretty darn good, as they say. This exercise isn't so much to track down every gun ever sold; the main idea would be to profile and investigate people that may not have registered their guns. As an example, I'm not so concerned with the guy who bought that bolt action Mauser a decade ago and doesn't have anything registered to his name. It's a pretty good possibility that he sold it, gave it away, or got rid of it somehow. And even if he didn't, that guy is not who I'm concerned with. I'm concerned that other guy who bought a half dozen assault weapons, registered two hunting rifles, and belongs to the NRA/GOA. He's the guy who warrants a raid."

Ahh see...that latter statement is going to get junior into lots  of trouble because he obviously hasn't heard the news that since Sandy Hook...the NRA has been fielding about 8000 new memberships PER DAY.  Why? because these folks can see the writing on the wall ,in blood as it were.

"So registration is the first step. Now that the vast majority are registered, WE CAN DO WHAT WE WILL.  One good first step would be to close the registry to new registrations. This would, in effect, prevent new guns from being made or imported. This would put the murder machine corporations out of business for good, and cut the money supply to the NRA/GOA. As money dries up, the political capital needed for new controls will be greatly reduced.
There are a few other things I would suggest. I would suggest an immediate, national ban on concealed carry. A ban on internet sales of guns and ammunition is a no brainer. Microstamping would also be a very good thing. Even if the only thing it does is drive up costs, it could still lead to crimes being solved. I'm willing to try every advantage we can get.
A national Firearms Owner Identification Card might be good, but I'm not sure if it's necessary if we have a national database. We should also insist on comprehensive insurance and mandatory gun safes, subject to random, spot checks by local and federal law enforcement."

None of this...not a single solitary WORD of legal under The U.S. or most STATE Constitutions, but hey...Sporky don't care as long as he has his right to free speech, to spew his abject stupidity.  Sigh.......Sporky, Sporky, Sporky...without the 2nd amendment ie guns...there IS no rest of the Constitution, so you can just kiss your right to free speech goodbye.   Ignorant little git.

"We must make guns expensive and unpopular, just like cigarettes. A nationwide, antigun campaign paid for by a per gun yearly tax paid by owners, dealers, and manufacturers would work well in this regard. We should also segway into an anti-hunting campaign, like those in the UK. By making hunting expensive and unpopular, we can make the transition to a gun free society much less of a headache for us." 

Yeah like THAT worked.  It created a HUGE black market in cigarettes you pustulant little pissant.  By the way Sporky...most people who own guns..OBJECT to new I doubt they are gonna sit still for a yearly penalty tax to be paid by them because they choose to exercise their god given, Constitutionally protected, right to bear arms.  And if you think your "gun free utopia" is going to be., welllll...utopic...then you are going to be sadly mistaken little worm.

I know this seems harsh, but this is the only way we can be truly safe. I don't want my kids being shot at by a deranged NRA member. I'm sure you don't either. So lets stop looking for short term solutions and start looking long term. Registration is the first step.
Tell Pres. Obama and democrats in congress to demand mandatory, comprehensive gun registration. It's the only way we can ban guns with any effectiveness."

Harsh he calls it.  I'd say it leads to the complete destruction of our nation, but hey! What do I know..I'm just a guy who studied and understood more history, in a relatively short period, than these people suggesting this stupidity have ever, or will ever study in their entire lives.

Don't you just love the jabs at the NRA like it's an EVIL organization bent on domination?  If I suggested the same thing of say...a gay rights groups...the screams of indignity would blow your ears off. Plus, I'd be willing to bet so would the calls of  "gay hater" and inevitably, almost assuredly so would the death threats.  Look at the the comment sections of facebook pages, news websites, blogs and twitter after the Sandy Hook Tragedy...the calls for death to all guns owners, "maybe we should kill all the NRA members" etc etc ad nauseum...flowed across the internet in a tidal wave of abject stupidity, and blind, festering hatred.   And everyone saying that was all, ALL liberals. You know those people who supposedly hate racism but are the first to call anyone who disagrees with them racist? You know...these people who are supposedly so tolerant and welcoming of discussion, but the minute you interject facts they call names, delete posts and block accounts?  You know...these supposedly peaceful *snort* people...who are always the first to call for the death of the opposing side, of having the GOVERNMENT disarm everyone by force and killing us, the gun owners, the 2nd amendment supporters, the believers in the Constitution and limited government?  The irony and hypocrisy is staggering ain't it boys and girls?

Oooops almost's the link to the article.  Notice I didn't even bother with the first paragraph of it.

Remember TANSTAAFL and..
I now return you to your tiny insignifcant little lives until I can "someday meet you on the field of battle and kill you."*

*bonus points to anyone who can name the race of beings that say that kind of thing and the TV series in which they are featured.


  1. I saw this yesterday, this person is clearly deranged. Replies to comments highlight it even more. But it was useful in pointing out that the line in the sand is, in fact, registration. Thanks, sporky.

  2. In regards to the constitutionality thing, according to him the 2nd is only for militias, which from the context of his comments he interprets as the military and not the interpretation in US Code of every 18-45 non-military male, dismissing Heller and MacDonald because the 5 "fascist judges" that ruled in favor of the 2nd being an individual right in each case.

    Yeah, the boy just ain't right, I know.

    1. a product of the modern education system is our boy Sporky. ain't it grand?

    2. I can't help but think of the line from the stuffy professor in that Rodney Dangerfield movie "Back to School".

      "I weep for the future."

    3. Aye. I've been saying that quite a lot the last couple years

  3. Is that the Sontarans?

    1. Correct! Give the man a medal or a sonic screwdriver...whichever he for the folks that don't know...Name That Series! :)

  4. If you think I would actually tell the truth @Registering@ then you probably like the stores to ask you where you live.
    You probably agree with having to fill out a form for cold pill, no matter that...
    Never the twain shall meet.

  5. Doofus hasn't a clue what a simple machine a firearm really is to produce. Especially something like a Sten or M3 Greasegun sub machine gun as opposed to a quality target weapon. A total ban on guns would be every bit as successful as the current ban on drugs.
    Interesting fact I ran across recently, the rate of violent crime in the gun free United Kingdom is five times that of the US. A woman in Britain is twice as likely to be raped as one in America, while a female in Australia runs triple the US risk. Anyone who says more gun control makes you safer is either lying or has no firm grip on reality.

    1. here's another interesting fact I bet you didn't know. I went to go look up crime stats in the UK recently and even the British version of the DOJ the freakin report mind you, that the figures are off because most people don't bother to report crimes because they feel the justice system is as worthless as tits on a boar

  6. and the liberal media doesn't report what a failure their agenda is.

    What a shocka!


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